I hate Most Gen 3 Pokemon

[Juxapose]

Pokemon I hate.

While revisiting Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire, and Emerald I kinda see one of the things that I hate about this game. I found that along with the long list of thing I hate about these games, but the Pokemon themselves are just so unpleasant.After doing my homework, I composed a small list of Pokemon that made me eat my GBA in rage.

The starter Pokemon: Torchick, Treeko,Mudkip

Treeko doesn't look like a grass Pokemon at all. It could pass for a poison, but not grass.

Torchick starts off cute, but the final form is so underwhelming. I mean the other two fire starters(Charizard + Typhlosion) were so awesome that I feel so dissapointed about a boxer that is on fire.

Mudkip once again starts off cute, but Swampert looks so small and the half-ground thing is directly stolen from Gold/Silver Wooper and Quagsire.

Poochyena:

This Pokemon is so unoriginal. We already had a puppy Pokemon called Growlithe which evolves to the super awesome Arcanine. And if you want to add the argument about having a dark type puppy, we already have Houndour and Houndoom. Plus Houndour is half fire, which makes it 100 times more awesome than a Dark only type canine Pokemon.

Zigzagoon:

This Pokemon and it's evolution is a cheap replacement of Sentret and Furret. Plus Furret is 100 times cuter than Linoone.

Wurmple & Evolutions:

This Pokemon is a cheap knock-off of Caterpie and Weedle and their Evolutions.

Lotad/Lombre/Ludicolo:

The first of the many stupid combinations of opposite and enemy types. Grass and Water combo is just plain stupid. And it only gets worse from here.

Nuzleaf/Shiftree:

Seedot is okay in my opinion. But adding dark to the Pokemon was so lazy. Dark Pokemon are supposed to symbolize evil and shadow in nature. Dark was also supposed to be a rare type. But gen 3 made a joke of the terrifying dark type.

Nincada/Ninjask/Shedinja:

I was okay with the Pokemon until it evolved. The bug Pokemon loses it's ground type, and gains flying instead. What happened? Don't we have enough Bug/Flying types? And why does the leftover shedding turn into another Pokemon? There is so any questions that just don't make any sense with this set of Pokemon.

Taillow/Swellow:

Seriously? ANOTHER Flying/Normal? Why not just keep Spearow/Fearow?

Breloom:

I actually like Shroomish. . . Until it evolved. Half fighting type? Are you kidding me?

Spinda:

I don't even know where to begin. . .What was the point of this Pokemon? To take up space?

Wingull/Pelipper:

Oh gee, a water/flying combo. I have never seen this type before. . . . EXCEPT GYARADOS!!!!!! And Gyarados kicked ass, this Pokemon sucks!

Surskit/Masquerain:

Another bug combo that starts cool, but loses it's nice second type for flying when it evolves. . . . Why?ANOTHER Bug/Flying?

Skitty/Delicatty:

Why? Wasn't Meowth a good enough Pokemon? Did we need another cat in the roster? They didn't even bother giving it a type other than Normal.

Baltoy/Claydoll:

I don't get it. Ground/Psychic?

Nosepass:

Do I even need an explanation?

Barboach/Whiscash:

Seriously? Swampert wasn't enough? We needed ANOTHER water/ground?

Luvdisc:

(Add your own jokes here)

Corphish/Crawdaunt:

Crabby/Kingler knockoff. Adding dark doesn't help either.

Carvanhah/Sharpedo:

I swear, they were running out of ideas by the time they got here. Once again, adding dark to a lame Pokemon does not make it cool.

Trapinch:

What the hell is this? Why doesn't it evolve? Another Pokemon that takes up space.

Spheal/Sealeo/Walrein

Seel/Dewgong knockoff.

Cacturn:

ADDING DARK DOES NOT MAKE A POKEMON COOL!!!!

Snorunt/Glalie

These Pokemon look nothing alike. I could not believe that these two were in any shape or form related. Thank god they don't just add Dark type.

Lunatone/Solrock:

Really? Baltoy/Claydol wasn't good enough? Now you're just adding Psychic or Dark to everything.

Spoink/Grumpig

How are these psychic?

Plusle/Minun:

You know that the game is desperate when they are making not one, but two Pikachu knock-offs.

Meditite/Medicham

Fighting/Psychic? This combo makes no sense at all. Psychic uses Special attack. Fighting uses Attack.Unless both special and attack scores are really high, this Pokemon is just useless.

Whimsur/Loudred/Exploud

These Pokemon are just plain ugly to look at.

Castform:

Oh god Pokemon developers. I still don't know how this Pokemon works yet, and it's been years.

Jirachi:

Hated it in the movie, hate it in the game. We already have a Steel/Psychic type (Beldum/Metang/Metagross). And guess what? Those Pokemon are AWESOME!!!

Okay, I spent over an hour typing this down. What are your thoughts of Gen 3 Pokemon?

[Butterscotch]

Gen Three Pokemon are probably my least favorite overall. But the repeating of similar Pokemon makes sense. In the real world, there are different species of birds. I mean, is there really all that much difference between, say, a sparrow and a goldfinch? 

In regards to some specifics. Yes, least favorite starters. Midkip is cute, but it's associated with obnoxious, overused memes. Your comment about Swampert's size surprised me, as I always thought it was rather large, but it's actually tied for second-smallest of the final forms of the starters. 

The comment on Meditite made me curious, so I looked it up and it's attack and special attack are balanced. Though I think it's overall stats might not be the best. 

About dark types being rare...what that ever explicitly stated as being a world-wide thing, or are they just supposed to be rare in Kanto and Johto? 

[Juxapose]

Mar 26, 2013 9:15:58 GMT -5 Butterscotch said:

About dark types being rare...what that ever explicitly stated as being a world-wide thing, or are they just supposed to be rare in Kanto and Johto? 

If you remember Gen 1, Dark Type was supposed to be an Undiscovered Type. That means that Dark type during the time frame of Gen 1 must have never existed no place on the Pokemon World. Same for Steel Type. They did undo that rule in the remake of Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green. But Pokemon Gold/Silver, Dark Pokemon were just recently being discovered. To have so many Dark Pokemon after so many years just seems so. . . . Wrong.

[Butterscotch]

Mar 26, 2013 21:10:01 GMT -5 Juxapose said:

Mar 26, 2013 9:15:58 GMT -5 Butterscotch said:

About dark types being rare...what that ever explicitly stated as being a world-wide thing, or are they just supposed to be rare in Kanto and Johto? 

If you remember Gen 1, Dark Type was supposed to be an Undiscovered Type. That means that Dark type during the time frame of Gen 1 must have never existed no place on the Pokemon World. Same for Steel Type. They did undo that rule in the remake of Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green. But Pokemon Gold/Silver, Dark Pokemon were just recently being discovered. To have so many Dark Pokemon after so many years just seems so. . . . Wrong.

ah, see the way I always interpreted that was the types themselves were newly discovered, but they'd been there all along. For example, Bronzor and Bronzong were known to ancient people.

So, I always figured that Magnemite was always part steel, they just didn't know it until they discovered it. The same the Bite attack. It was actually always a dark attack, but since they didn't know dark existed, it was classified as normal. I admit that my reasoning involves retconning the G1 Pokemon and attacks, but that's how I always assumed it was.

[Juxapose]

Mar 27, 2013 8:58:31 GMT -5 Butterscotch said:

Mar 26, 2013 21:10:01 GMT -5 Juxapose said:

If you remember Gen 1, Dark Type was supposed to be an Undiscovered Type. That means that Dark type during the time frame of Gen 1 must have never existed no place on the Pokemon World. Same for Steel Type. They did undo that rule in the remake of Pokemon Fire Red/Leaf Green. But Pokemon Gold/Silver, Dark Pokemon were just recently being discovered. To have so many Dark Pokemon after so many years just seems so. . . . Wrong.

ah, see the way I always interpreted that was the types themselves were newly discovered, but they'd been there all along. For example, Bronzor and Bronzong were known to ancient people.

So, I always figured that Magnemite was always part steel, they just didn't know it until they discovered it. The same the Bite attack. It was actually always a dark attack, but since they didn't know dark existed, it was classified as normal. I admit that my reasoning involves retconning the G1 Pokemon and attacks, but that's how I always assumed it was.

True. These Pokemon always existed, but never discovered. 

The problem (and yes, it was a huge problem for me) about Magnemite/Magneton is the idea that those Pokemon were never weak against fire in the original Red/Blue game(so even if they were always steel-type before the discovery of steel, why does the Pokemon gain a new weakness once discovered?) Also, skills like Bite did no extra damage against Psychic-types in those games either. So to just "Discover" new Pokemon types during Gold/Silver seem to change how skills and Pokemon that already exist react to other Pokemon and their skills. Yes, I have complained about this in the Gold and Silver game. But to make it worse in Ruby and Sapphire is just inexcusable.

Dark Pokemon in Gold and Silver were considered rare and novelty Pokemon in Gold/Silver. If you look at any of the Dark types from those games, you would see what I'm talking about:

Umbreon (Only happened when Eevee becomes extremely happy. Something that cannot be done in Red/Blue. Why? I don't know. But since Eevee is a gen 1 Pokemon, and only 3 evolutions were known at that time, Pokemon must not have been very happy animals during this generation.)

Murcrow/Houndour/Houndoom (Only found at night. Pokemon Training seem to only occur exclusively in the daytime in Gen 1 if these Pokemon were never discovered in Red/Blue. Murkrow, Houndour and Houndoom are only found in Kanto, the map of Gen 1.)

Sneasel (Also only found at night. Exclusive to Jhoto)

Tyranitar (only through evolving Pupitar. Larvitar and Pupitar are not dark type. This Pokemon must have been believed to be only Ground/Rock type until a trainer was able to evolve a Pupitar, and some professor discovered to have a type change in it's third evolution.)

Notice that there are only 6 dark-type in Gold and Silver? By the discovery of Dark type pokemon in Gen 2, there should have been more Dark Pokemon popping up in the radar. The game lead us to believe that Dark and Steel were types that are rare. Something that few trainers owned, and fewer knew how to use. But Gen 3 and beyond changed that and made Dark and Steel mainstream types with the addition of many new dark and steel.

Another thing I will mention. Jasmine, the Steel-Type Gym Leader said herself that Steel was newly discovered, and she was the only trainer in existence to know how to train them. There were no dark gyms at the time, so even after the discovery of Dark, nobody knew how to use Dark Pokemon yet.